048 'Ok, We Need to Talk About Russia, Worse Than Iraq, Non-troversies' - The Fifth Column
It's an active week in Washington as the Trump administration takes a few mulligans. The Travel/Muslim Ban is revealed, Congress debates the deeply unpopular health care reform-reform proposal, and the administration teases a new trillion dollar infrastructure slush fund. The steady diet of (real and imagined) scandal, controversy, and leaks hasn't let up either. And while the national press is outraged over one ridiculous conspiracy theory and infatuated with another, almost no one is paying attention to the slow-motion cataclysm in the middle east... a situation that could get very bad, very fast.
Kmele's a misogynist. Moynihan is in the building. And Welch is in the back of a cab (then the airport terminal)... and Katie Halper stops by, but it's complicated.
(Recorded: March 7st, 2017)
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- [ GRRT, BAOW ]
- Dragonball Z
- Kamala Drops Out, A Narrative Quickly Take Shape
- A De-platforming in South Bend
- 1619 and Historical Skepticism
- Are the Democratic Primaries Racist? (Can We Call It Seeding or Naw?)
- A Farewell to NATO? And the WTO? And the EU too?
- 'Impeachment', The Board Game
- 'The Irishman', A Review
Recorded: December 6, 2019
Published: December 8, 2019
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This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribeThe director of classic documentaries 'The Thin Blue Line,' 'Fog of War,' and 'Standard Operation Procedure,' Errol Morris has long been the doyen of critics...until he made 'American Dharma,' a film exploring the worldview and influence of former Breitbart boss and Trump campaign chief executive Steve Bannon. Predictably, Morris was accused of 'platforming' Bannon and, for the first time in his career, America's most famous documentarian couldn't find a distributor for his film. On the day 'American Dharma' opened in New York, Morris sat down with Michael Moynihan to discuss the controversy, whether or not Bannon is a 'fascist,' and why he thinks his most controversial movie is also his best.
Recorded: November 1, 2019
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- Trumpian Slam Poetry ('I Want Nothing!')
- Got a Thing for Fiona Hill
- Blue Pill Confessional
- Burisma Biden
- The Good, The Bad, and The Career Diplomats
- Weird John Bolton Tweets
- The Wrestle Mania Impeachment
- Sacha Baron vs Facebook, Borat as Proto-Hate Speech
- Grading the Democratic Debate
- Spiking the Kaepernick
- About that Patreon
Recorded: November 22nd 2019
Published: November 24th 2019
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- Moynihan Drinks w/ Trump Supporters in Bay Ridge
- Buttigieg
- Impeachment Hearings
- Devin Nunes’ Garbage Clown Schtick
- Roger Stone Goes Down
- What Happened to Rudy Giuliani?
- Stealing Land in Texas, Pardoning War Criminals
- Patreon Launche (https://www.patreon.com/wethefifth)
Recorded: November 15th 2019
Published: November 17th 2019
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Published: November 9th 2019
GUEST: Bari Weiss
Op-Ed Staff Editor and Writer @ The New York Times
Author, 'How to Fight Anti-Semitism' (2019)
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Published: October 31st 2019
GUEST: Thomas Chatterton Williams
Author, 'Self-Portrait in Black and White: Unlearning Race' (2019)
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Published: October 22nd 2019
GUEST: Meghan Daum
Author, 'The Problem With Everything' (2019)
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This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribeRecorded: October 9th 2019
Published: October 10th 2019
GUEST: Walt Hickey,
Senior Editor for Data @ Insider
Founder @ Numlock News newsletter
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This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribe- Picking fights in restaurants
- Botham Jean's brother forgives Amber Guyger for murdering his brother. And that's a problem.
- Forgiveness vs. MORE HARSH SENTENCING
- Ukraine/Trump
- Matt lacks the Xi-spot to laugh
- Trump’s Afghanistan policy is a photo of ladies in pants
- Base familial corruption
- Swampier than the swamp
- We've been had (if we're Obama or Trump supporters)
- Obama’s Jonas Brothers drone joke
- Trump’s DC hotel is the Star Wars bar
- Never Trumpers should be Never Government people
- Frank Luntz’s curtains open and play “Hail to the Chief”
- Impeachment check-in
- If Bannon hates the elites, why is he the primary source for Michael Wolff’s book
- Andrew Yang Hates Porn
- Christopher Hitchens' opinions from beyond the grave
- Don't write 'Orange Man Bad'
- The Fifth Column LIVE, again?
Recorded: October 3, 2019
Published: October 4, 2019
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- #EmmysSoWhite
- 'Some saw...'
- Films Don't Matter
- Xenophobic Immigrants
- Biden, Trump, Ukraine
- Will He Be Impeached ? Maybe…And No
- It's Greta Thunberg's World
- The Vaping Muslim Ban
- Rashida Tlaib's Science of Smoking
- Tweet Dumpster Diving
- “Cancel Culture is A Myth”
Recorded: September 26, 2019
Published: September 27th 2019
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- RIP Emmet O’Lunney’s
- Brett Kavanaugh *Allegation(s)*
- College campuses in the 1980s was all about apartheid
- Moynihan’s Foggy Memory, and Everyone’s
- John Bolton, Out
- Obama’s Apology Tour and Trump’s Chomsky Impression
- Kmele’s Worried about Iranian escalation
- Joe BIden’s 'Corn Pop' Story: Fact Check=True
- George Packer’s Atlantic Piece on Schools
- Cancelling the SNL guy
- Mark Sanford
- Business Insider's GOP debate
- Some Idiot Wrote This
Recorded: September 16th 2019
Published: September 19th 2019
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Published: September 7th 2019
Guest: Steve Kornacki, National Political Correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC. Author of 'The Red and the Blue: The 1990s and the Birth of Political Tribalism'
- RIP, Vice News Tonight on HBO
- Everybody kinda likes Joe Walsh
- The 'Straight Man' on MSNBC
- New Jersey politics is so much more fun than national politics
- Kamala Harris channels robot John Edwards
- Negotiating with the Taliban
- Casualty counts matter
- It’s a better and worse media moment
- An alternate history where Mario Cuomo decides to run
- Pulling a string on Kornacki and he just goes
- Bill Weld’s novels
- Lonelier than the ideological middle is the temper-mental middle
- The guardrails have been annihilated
- Admitting to liking Chappelle’s show
- US military “protecting elections”
- The T Zone
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- The Segregation of Everything
- The 1619 Project: “Everything that makes America exceptional is because of slavery”
- NHJ: “We’re the MOST American”
- Trump: “I hereby order…”
- Dual Loyalty (and cascading stupidity)
- David Koch, Rubin “Hurricane” Carter
- Park Slope Socialists
Recorded: August 23rd 2019
Published: August 26th 2019
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This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribeWelch, Moynihan, and Kmele are all in the same room for the first time in more than a month -- and it's a glorious reunion.
Recorded: August 16th 2019
Published: August 18th 2019
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This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribeIn this Special Dispatch, Michael Moynihan sits down with legendary journalist, author, and documentarian -- Jon Ronson. They discuss some of Ronson's most celebrated books, his fabulous new podcasts exploring the porn industry ('The Butterfly Effect', 'The Last Days of August'), and his penchant for pissing off Alex Jones.
Jon Ronson's Books Include:
- 'Them' (2001)
- 'The Men Who Stare at Goats' (2004)
- 'The Psychopath Test' (2011)
- 'So You've Been Publicly Shamed' (2015)
Recorded: July 26th 2019
Published: August 2nd 2019
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Description:
- Moynihan in Martha's Vineyard
- Mueller sucks on TV
- Trump’s Razor: The dumbest explanation is the most likely
- “Send them back” — is it racist?
- Jane Mayer's Al Franken defense
- Shitty Media Men
- Deletes Jokes
- A$AP Rocky
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Recorded: July 11th 2019
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This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribeGuest: Patrick Radden Keefe, staff writer at the New Yorker, author of 'Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland'
Description:
In this special dispatch, Michael Moynihan talks with Patrick Radden Keefe about the 1972 murder of Jean McConville, a mother of 10 in Belfast, at the hands of the IRA. Her disappearance remained a mystery for decades, but in his new book, Keefe names the names of the alleged perpetrators, and talks about the greater political implications of the Catholic-Protestant violence that continues to plague Northern Ireland to this day. Also, Moynihan reveals the moment when he realized Gerry Adams isn't the folk hero that many Americans believed he was.
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- Welch gets a Stress Sty
- RIP, Steve Dunleavy
- NBA O-W-N-E-R-S
- Democratic Debate Preview
- No Plan B for Iran
- Concentration Camp Kerfuffle
- San Fran Bans E-cigs (Till They Can Figure Out What the Hell is Going On'
Recorded: 6/25/2019
Published: 6/27/2019
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- Everyone Told Coleman Not To Testify
- Age, Experience, Credentials
- Lethal Weapons, Imaginary Friends
- “Shame Shame”
- Full Puerto Rican
- Moral Alchemy
- Coleman Reads His Mentions
- We, They, Us
- Candace Owens, Lil Pump, And The Decline of Western Civilization
Recorded: 6/21/2019
Published: 6/24/2019
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- Moynihan Gets Arrested
- Fisher is a jealous 'lefty hack'
- Dave Rubin is totally NOT in his Feelings
- Assange, Journalistic Freedom
- Trump vs His Advisors
- European Elections
- MLK: Hero, Philanderer (and possibly worse), But Definitely a Hero
- Bill de Blasio Needs to Raise Some Money, Fast
Recorded: 5/28/2019
Published: 5/30/2019
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- Howard Kurtz was once serious
- Trump's attempted outing
- Phony classical liberals
- Free speech at the margins
- Every election is stolen
- Finding Loose Change
- Conspiracy theorists, right and left
- An Infinitely stupid Congress
- Donald Trump as Mr. Bean
Recorded: 5/8/2019
Published: 5/12/2019
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This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribew/ Eli Lake (Columnist @ Bloomberg Voice)
- We Like Bari Weiss
- Moynihan is a Drunk, Also a Great Neighbor
- Muller Report
- Grifting, the Grifters, of Grif
- Eli Lake's Hood Pass
- Tom Arnold Was Great in True Lies
- All The Missing Tapes
- Seth Abramson's Beautiful Mind
- Election Interference / Hacking / Exaggerations
- Impeachments + Inquiries
- Assange: Journalist or Naw?
- Naughty Journalist in the Movies
- Dogs = White Supremacy
- That's Why Darkies Were Born
Recorded: 4/24/2019
Published: 4/25/2019
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This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit wethefifth.substack.com/subscribew/ Ben Dreyfuss - Editorial Director @ Mother Jones
- Waiting for Godot
- Ben Dreyfuss is, Young Bernie Madoff
- Jill Abramson's 'Write' Privilege
- 'Strange Justice' = 'Strange Fruit'?
- Political turncoats
- Paleo-Neoconservative
- Private School Kids Buying Drugs
- Daddy issues
- Bret Easton Ellis' bad writing
- Death threats
- Race Realists
Recorded: 4/17/2019
Published: 4/19/2019
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- Hating New York
- What Would Hitch Say?
- On Being a Reluctant, Problematic Civil Rights Pioneer
- Surviving a Death Sentence
- Immigration Backlash
- Obama Hated Identity Politics?
- Assange Arrested
- Pope Benedict blames the 60s
- Too Many Popes
- The Comfort of Religious Ritual
Recorded: 4/11/2019
Published: 4/12/2019
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- Our Mathematical Universe
- 'Leaving Neverland' Revisionism
- Russiagate: Right, Wrong, Whatever
- Jonathan Chait is “Completely* Correct*”
- When in Venezuela + Nobody Likes Sanctions
- Venezuela: Humanitarian Crisis, Economic Crisis'
- Making Friends + Enemies on Twitter
- 'The Realm of Hungry Ghosts' (a book by Aaron's Dad)
- Stop Snitchin (On Your Sources)
- Joe Biden Feminism
- Kmele Talked w/ Thad
- Marvin Gaye: You're the (black) Man
Recorded: 4/3/2019
Published: 4/4/2019
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- Margaret Sullivan: the Captain Beefheart of journalism
- Glenn Greenwald spikes the football with a vengeance
- MSNBC doubles down
- Seth Abramson: Poet laureate, Resistance Hero
- Trump's enemies list and love of authoritarians
- Roger Stone and the D-list of DC conservatism
- Jussie Smollet's privilege
- Some Idiot Wrote This, Jane Mayer edition
Recorded: 3/26/2019
Published: 3/28/2019
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- Tina's Theranos voice
- Elizabeth Warren Holmes
- Revisiting the Universal Basic Income (Kmele hasn't endorse UBI or Andrew Yang)
- Technophobia, 'McDonald’s employees will murder you'
- The Three-Fifths Column
- Matt does Betomania
- Getting it wrong on Iraq
- The cycles of massacre reaction/coverage
- Islamists v. White nationalists
- Stuyvesant High School and Asian Privilege
- 'Fuck off Tiger parents'
Recorded: 3/21/2019
Published: 3/24/2019
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- Kmele's in 'Frisco', Moynihan's hungover, Matt got lit up on Twitter
- Desperate wealthy college parents headed to prison?
- The injustice of legacy admissions
- Elite colleges are overrated
- Biden v. Beto
- Venezuela's blackout and the three initials who shall not be named
- Platforming vs de-platforming
- Tucker Carlson's shock-jock period
- National Review swinging (and missing) at Trump
- If you’re going to “Cancel,” cancel everything
- Matt's Pat Caddell tribute/roast thing
Recorded: 3/12/2019
Published: 3/18/2019
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Recorded: 3/6/2019
Published: 3/11/2019
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- Canceling Michael Jackson, R Kelly, and The Entire 1970s
- All Hate Matters
- Dual Loyalties
- Bernie Sanders Marched for Civil Rights, He's Still 'Too White'
- Democratic Socialism**
- Revisiting Moynihan v. Weisbrot
- Some Idiot Wrote This
- Salman Rushdie
Recorded: 3/5/2019
Published: 3/7/2019
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Co-Director @ Center for Economic and Policy Research
Author, 'Failed: What the 'experts' got wrong about the global economy'
- Visiting w/ Hugo Chavez + Sean Penn
- Is 'dictatorship' a hate word?
- Venezuela's elections
- Political prisoners
- State violence or police violence
- Coming coup?
- Embargoes, sanctions, and the collapse of the economy
- Who's to blame for hunger?
- The opposition
- What's a good faith negotiation entry point?
Recorded: 3/1/2019
Published: 3/3/2019
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- But Then Again, The Whole Gang Totally Called That Shit Too
- Coast Guard Neo-Nazi would-be terrorist arrested
- Kmele and Liz Plank on 'Reliable Sources'
- Unreliable hate crime statistics
- Social Justice Judo
- CNN Hires Sarah Isgur Flores
- Bill Moyers, Problematic Icon
- Bernie Sanders, Front-runner
- Some Idiot Wrote This
- Download 'Headspace' Today
Recorded: PM 2/20/2019
Published: 2/21/2019
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- We Need to Talk About Jill Abramson
- Too Important to be a Plagiarist?
- Rep Omar: You Might Be An Antisemitism, But Maybe Not
- Blackface: The Highest Form of Flattery?
- Klobuchar, FTW
- Team AOC's Green New Deal Fiasco
ALSO:
- Moynihan Steps Out of Line
- The Huxtable Compound
- Indentured Servitude
- 22 Savage
- The Red Shoe Diaries
- Emergency Podcasting
Recorded: PM 2/11/2019
Published: 2/13/2019
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- Jussie Smollett
- Stories For Every Narrative
- Ralph Northam
- Fancy Dress Parties
- The Weird Man’s Burden
- Anti Semitism, Hate Speech
- Stormy or STORMZY
- Yellow Vests Revolution
Recorded: PM 2/2/2019
Published: 2/4/2019
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- BuzzFeed's Bombshell?
- Jason Leopold, Oliver Darcy
- The Temple of Journalism
- Anonymous Sourcing
- Punching Catholic Kids
- Stolen Valor, Callin' Bullshit
ALSO:
- Jill Abramson (Part 2)
- 'GUILTY' - By M.C. Moynihan
- On Venezuela
Recorded: 1/22/2019 PM
Published: 1/24/2019
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