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Jussie Smollett's years-long legal drama careening toward its conclusion. New York City enacts the countries most expansive (and ill-conceived) COVID restrictions. While the Biden Administration sends diplomatic shots at Xi in China and navigates an increasingly tumultuous situation with Putin in Russia.


  • Kmele's New York State of Mind
  • Creep Show
  • Playin' Journalist
  • Diplomatic Games + Human Rights
  • Blaming Everything on NATO (and Biden)
  • Russia Hawks
  • No Justice for Jussie
  • Elite Lives Matter
  • Yoko/Lennon
  • McLaughlin Psychic Friends Network


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- Typhoid Welch

- Biden crushes South Carolina and Super Tuesday

- Good 'ol Uncle Joe or Cognitive Decline

- 'Democratic' Socialism?

- MAGA Corps and Bernie Bros Will Excuse Almost Anything Their Candidates Do

- Elizabeth Warren Lost -- It's Empirically Not HER Fault

- DNC Subterfuge

- Biden's Lies About Getting Arrested, Mandela Thanking

- Preview of the Biden v Bernie Debate

- Schumer SCOTUS Threat

- The FISA 'Rubber Stamp'

- The Horrifying Books on Your Sshelf

- President Trump's *Disgraceful* Peace Deal w/ the Taliban

- Eli's Libertarian War Powers Fetish

- Steve Kornacki: Legend

- Chris Matthews

- Billionaire Lives Matter

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Recorded: March 5th, 2020

Released: March 6th, 2020


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w/ Aaron Maté (Host @ PushBack, Contributor @ The Nation)

- Throwin Up Gang Signs

- COVID-19

- Cuban History 101

- Giving China Credit

- Billionaires and Unicorns

- Harvey Weinstein

Recorded: February 26th, 2020

Released: February 27th, 2020


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w/ Asawin Suebsaeng and Lachlan Markay (White House Reporters @ The Daily Beast)

Co Authors: ''Sinking in the Swamp' How Trump's Minions and Misfits Poisoned Washington'

Description:

- Moynihan's Vocal Fry and 'Actually Good' Accents

- Searching for 'Henry Hills' in Trumpworld

- Lachlan's Conservative Apostasy

- Al Gore: Most Boring Interview Subject Ever

- Rats and Snitches

- Daily Beast: A 'High-brow Tabloid'

- Woke (Racist?) Bloomberg

- The Muslim Ban

- From Seb Gorka to Hunter Biden

- Reporters vs Opinion Pundits

- Will the Press Scrutinize the Next President as Aggressively?

- The Never Trumpers Who End Up in the White House Anyway

- John Bolton's Next Act

- Swin/Lachlan's 'Badgers Story'

- Drama Queens

- Bob Woodward

- Godfather 3, still bad

- Gore Vidal + Timothy McVeigh

Recorded: February 18th, 2020

Released: February 19th, 2020


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Description:

- Black History Month

- There's no Barbecue Sauce in American Dirt

- Believe Some Death Threats, Leverage Others

- Oscar Obsession (Beautiful Mind Edition)

- Yang Dead Is Dead, Long Live Yang Gang

- Bernie's Ceiling, Biden's Ebony Firewall

- A SHOCKING Presidential Endorsement

- Bloomberg's Stop + Frisk Memory Hole

- ADL: 'White Supremacy is On The Rise!'

Recorded: February 12th, 2020

Released: February 13th, 2020


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The last time we did this, we said don't get used to it. Well, we meant it. But we're also feeling overly generous. So here is last week's Patreon-only dispatch, featuring Moynihan and Kmele. You're welcome.

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Kmele and Moynihan are back in Williamsburg drinking bad wine and talking shit...while trying to figure out why Welch isn't returning anyone's calls. 

Moynihan returns to Iowa and remembers why he hates journalists. Bumbling around the Hawkeye State, he chats with Andrew Yang, hangs with hardcore Trump types and fanatical Bernie bros. And they're all Iowa nice. 

Kmele has a black 'Big Chill' weekend in Pennsylvania and opens about up his parents--to a gobsmacked Moynihan.

 

As usual, the lads try to catch up on a bunch of listener mail, provoking discussions about tattoos, Chile, Northern Ireland, Goop, The Central Park Five, and the 'Preppy Killer' Robert Chambers.

 

And twenty years after it debuted, Kmele finally watches Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Outro music: RIP Andy Gill.

Recorded February 4, 2020


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Description:

- Kmele's Inner MAGA

- State of the Union Theatrics

- “Oh, God -- Fire the Media!”

- 'The Big Lie' (and other nonsense)

- Mitt Romney’s Moment

- Trump’s Criminal Justice Reform

- Iowa Fiasco

- Waiting for Bernie to Turn on MSNBC

- Preview of Upcoming Patreon Episodes

Recorded: February 5th, 2020

Released: February 6th, 2020


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Description:

- When the mob came for the Fifth

- Hong Kong: Proto Police State

- The Democratic Field

- Bernie's Got a Shot, The Joe Rogan Bounce

- Criminalizing Disinformation

- Watching Lou Dobbs

- Fearing the Bern

- Truthy Skepticism

- An Impeachment Drive-By

- Eli on the FBI

- Some Idiot Wrote This (and this... and this...)

Recorded: January 29, 2020

Released: January 30, 2020


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GUEST:

Miriam Elder, senior political reporter for BuzzFeed News and former Russia correspondent for The Guardian. (@MiriamElder)

DESCRIPTION:

Our fake bios

Miriam's seven years in Moscow

Get Shorty, Alex Jones, and the D-list bullshit artists

Matt’s Russophobia isn’t as bad as MSNBC’s

Political theater provides cover to Putin’s authoritarianism 

Moynihan and Elder throw down over Bernie's alleged sexism. Plus: Is believing Warren or Sanders a #MeToo lesson?

Who is the nihilist candidate?

Banning lies on Facebook

Can a bully be funny?

The “Independents” couple forever

Recorded: January 16, 2020

Released: January 18, 2020


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GUEST: Noah Rothman

Associate Editor@ Commentary -- Contributor @ MSNBC/NBC News

Author: “Unjust: Social Justice and the Unmaking of America” (Jan 2019)

DESCRIPTION:

- Why the Washington Bullets became the Wizard 

- Bomb Iran?

- Will Americans ever support another Middle East War again?

- International commerce —> global middle class —> less war

- Trump thinks China should police the Strait of Hormuz

- What if we did NOTHING?

- Brian Stelter praises Tucker Carlson

- John Bolton might testify

- Moynihan shows up late

- Elizabeth Wurtzel

- Facebooks deep fake 'Problem'

- Thanks for the swags, and the booze

Recorded: January 7, 2019

Published: January 8, 2019


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DESCRIPTION:

- Neighborhood Watch

- Moynihan’s Anti-Brit Streak

- Bernie’s Fundraising Clout

- Ron Paul’s Newsletters and Everlasting Ice Cream

- Buttigieg Wants to Decriminalize All Drugs

- Iran’s Quds Force commander Soleiman Killed in Iraq

- Media Malpractice on Vaping

- Chuck Todd's Fake News special

- About That Memo

Recorded: January 2, 2020

Published: January 3, 2020


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Happy Kwanza -- We've UNLOCKED a Patreon Only dispatch just for you (and everyone else)! Enjoy it, but don't get used to it.

The Williamsburg Tapes (Dispatch #4)

'Losing Our Religion'

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It's a pre-Christmas miracle! The Fifth Columnists are back at the stammtisch (stupid table) in Williamsburg for a long-ass special dispatch, mostly discussing things distant from the news cycle. Kmele watches 'Mandingo' and, to the shock of both Welch and Moynihan, is slack-jawed by how racist it is. The lads answer some reader mail and discuss Michael Collins, the Pete Best of Apollo 11; offer some meandering thoughts on Catholicism and Seventh Day Adventism; ruminate on tragedy and loss; blather about the Richard Jewell movie nontroversy; recommend books about Israel; and provide two-plus hours of assorted other nonsense.

Recorded: 12/??/2019

Published: 12/25/2019


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GUEST: Conor Friedersdorf

Staff Writer @ The Atlantic

DESCRIPTION:

- Patreon-only Preview

- Chapo Trap vs Conor

- An Underreported Attack in Jersey City

- Afghanistan Mea Culpa

- Something About Impeachment

- Reauthorize Every War, Every Year

- Biden, Dove of the Obama Administration

- Complicated Brexit voters

- Gesture politics

- The Paternalism of Blooombergism

- The Pronoun Talk

- Civility, Without Obsessing Over Identity

Recorded: December 17, 2019

Published: December 18, 2019


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Description: 

- Kmele’s Dog Ate His Own Tail

- Debunking mediums and magicians

- UK elections, the problem with Jeremy Corbyn

- WaPo’s “Afghanistan Papers”

- IG report and the FBI's no-good, very bad behavior

- Mispronouncing Nunes

- Acela Wars

- Greta Thunberg: Person of the Year

- The case against Welches Case Against Impeachment

Recorded: December 12, 2019

Published: December 14, 2019


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- [ GRRT, BAOW ]

- Dragonball Z

- Kamala Drops Out, A Narrative Quickly Take Shape

- A De-platforming in South Bend

- 1619 and Historical Skepticism

- Are the Democratic Primaries Racist? (Can We Call It Seeding or Naw?)

- A Farewell to NATO? And the WTO? And the EU too?

- 'Impeachment', The Board Game

- 'The Irishman', A Review

Recorded: December 6, 2019

Published: December 8, 2019


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The director of classic documentaries 'The Thin Blue Line,' 'Fog of War,' and 'Standard Operation Procedure,' Errol Morris has long been the doyen of critics...until he made 'American Dharma,' a film exploring the worldview and influence of former Breitbart boss and Trump campaign chief executive Steve Bannon. Predictably, Morris was accused of 'platforming' Bannon and, for the first time in his career, America's most famous documentarian couldn't find a distributor for his film. On the day 'American Dharma' opened in New York, Morris sat down with Michael Moynihan to discuss the controversy, whether or not Bannon is a 'fascist,' and why he thinks his most controversial movie is also his best.

Recorded: November 1, 2019


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Description:

- Trumpian Slam Poetry ('I Want Nothing!')

- Got a Thing for Fiona Hill

- Blue Pill Confessional

- Burisma Biden

- The Good, The Bad, and The Career Diplomats 

- Weird John Bolton Tweets

- The Wrestle Mania Impeachment

- Sacha Baron vs Facebook, Borat as Proto-Hate Speech

- Grading the Democratic Debate

- Spiking the Kaepernick

- About that Patreon

Recorded: November 22nd 2019

Published: November 24th 2019


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- Who Shot Ya? (Tupac, Biggie)

- Moynihan Drinks w/ Trump Supporters in Bay Ridge

- Buttigieg

- Impeachment Hearings

- Devin Nunes’ Garbage Clown Schtick

- Roger Stone Goes Down

- What Happened to Rudy Giuliani?

- Stealing Land in Texas, Pardoning War Criminals

- Patreon Launche (https://www.patreon.com/wethefifth)

Recorded: November 15th 2019

Published: November 17th 2019


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Recorded: November 6th 2019

Published: November 9th 2019

GUEST: Bari Weiss

Op-Ed Staff Editor and Writer @ The New York Times

Author, 'How to Fight Anti-Semitism' (2019)


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Recorded: October 20th 2019

Published: October 31st 2019

GUEST: Thomas Chatterton Williams

Author, 'Self-Portrait in Black and White: Unlearning Race' (2019)


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Recorded: October 18th 2019

Published: October 22nd 2019

GUEST: Meghan Daum

Author, 'The Problem With Everything' (2019)


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Recorded: October 9th 2019

Published: October 10th 2019

GUEST: Walt Hickey,

Senior Editor for Data @ Insider

Founder @ Numlock News newsletter


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- Picking fights in restaurants

- Botham Jean's brother forgives Amber Guyger for murdering his brother. And that's a problem. 

- Forgiveness vs. MORE HARSH SENTENCING

- Ukraine/Trump 

- Matt lacks the Xi-spot to laugh 

- Trump’s Afghanistan policy is a photo of ladies in pants 

- Base familial corruption

- Swampier than the swamp

- We've been had (if we're Obama or Trump supporters)

- Obama’s Jonas Brothers drone joke

- Trump’s DC hotel is the Star Wars bar

- Never Trumpers should be Never Government people

- Frank Luntz’s curtains open and play “Hail to the Chief”

- Impeachment check-in

- If Bannon hates the elites, why is he the primary source for Michael Wolff’s book

- Andrew Yang Hates Porn

- Christopher Hitchens' opinions from beyond the grave

- Don't write 'Orange Man Bad'

- The Fifth Column LIVE, again?

Recorded: October 3, 2019

Published: October 4, 2019


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- Moynihan won an Emmy

- #EmmysSoWhite

- 'Some saw...'

- Films Don't Matter

- Xenophobic Immigrants

- Biden, Trump, Ukraine

- Will He Be Impeached ? Maybe…And No

- It's Greta Thunberg's World

- The Vaping Muslim Ban

- Rashida Tlaib's Science of Smoking

- Tweet Dumpster Diving

- “Cancel Culture is A Myth”

Recorded: September 26, 2019

Published: September 27th 2019


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- The “moderate chic” party

- RIP Emmet O’Lunney’s

- Brett Kavanaugh *Allegation(s)*

- College campuses in the 1980s was all about apartheid

- Moynihan’s Foggy Memory, and Everyone’s

- John Bolton, Out

- Obama’s Apology Tour and Trump’s Chomsky Impression

- Kmele’s Worried about Iranian escalation 

- Joe BIden’s 'Corn Pop' Story: Fact Check=True

- George Packer’s Atlantic Piece on Schools

- Cancelling the SNL guy 

- Mark Sanford

- Business Insider's GOP debate

- Some Idiot Wrote This

Recorded: September 16th 2019

Published: September 19th 2019


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Recorded: September 4th 2019

Published: September 7th 2019

Guest: Steve Kornacki, National Political Correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC. Author of 'The Red and the Blue: The 1990s and the Birth of Political Tribalism'

- RIP, Vice News Tonight on HBO

- Everybody kinda likes Joe Walsh

- The 'Straight Man' on MSNBC

- New Jersey politics is so much more fun than national politics

- Kamala Harris channels robot John Edwards

- Negotiating with the Taliban

- Casualty counts matter

- It’s a better and worse media moment

- An alternate history where Mario Cuomo decides to run

- Pulling a string on Kornacki and he just goes

- Bill Weld’s novels

- Lonelier than the ideological middle is the temper-mental middle

- The guardrails have been annihilated

- Admitting to liking Chappelle’s show

- US military “protecting elections”

- The T Zone


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- Ladies Libertarianing

- The Segregation of Everything

- The 1619 Project: “Everything that makes America exceptional is because of slavery”

- NHJ: “We’re the MOST American”

- Trump: “I hereby order…”

- Dual Loyalty (and cascading stupidity)

- David Koch, Rubin “Hurricane” Carter

- Park Slope Socialists

Recorded: August 23rd 2019

Published: August 26th 2019


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Welch, Moynihan, and Kmele are all in the same room for the first time in more than a month -- and it's a glorious reunion.

Recorded: August 16th 2019

Published: August 18th 2019


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In this Special Dispatch, Michael Moynihan sits down with legendary journalist, author, and documentarian -- Jon Ronson. They discuss some of Ronson's most celebrated books, his fabulous new podcasts exploring the porn industry ('The Butterfly Effect', 'The Last Days of August'), and his penchant for pissing off Alex Jones.

Jon Ronson's Books Include:

  • 'Them' (2001)
  • 'The Men Who Stare at Goats' (2004)
  • 'The Psychopath Test' (2011)
  • 'So You've Been Publicly Shamed' (2015)

Recorded: July 26th 2019

Published: August 2nd 2019


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Guest: Ben Dreyfuss (Editorial Director, Mother Jones)

Description:

- Moynihan in Martha's Vineyard

- Mueller sucks on TV

- Trump’s Razor: The dumbest explanation is the most likely

- “Send them back” — is it racist?

- Jane Mayer's Al Franken defense

- Shitty Media Men

- Deletes Jokes

- A$AP Rocky


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Guest: Molly Jong-Fast is a contributor to The Bulwark and the author of three books. (@MollyJongFast)

Recorded: July 11th 2019


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Guest: Patrick Radden Keefe, staff writer at the New Yorker, author of 'Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland'

Description:

In this special dispatch, Michael Moynihan talks with Patrick Radden Keefe about the 1972 murder of Jean McConville, a mother of 10 in Belfast, at the hands of the IRA. Her disappearance remained a mystery for decades, but in his new book, Keefe names the names of the alleged perpetrators, and talks about the greater political implications of the Catholic-Protestant violence that continues to plague Northern Ireland to this day. Also, Moynihan reveals the moment when he realized Gerry Adams isn't the folk hero that many Americans believed he was.


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- Moynihan Goes to Court

- Welch gets a Stress Sty

- RIP, Steve Dunleavy

- NBA O-W-N-E-R-S

- Democratic Debate Preview

- No Plan B for Iran

- Concentration Camp Kerfuffle

- San Fran Bans E-cigs (Till They Can Figure Out What the Hell is Going On'

Recorded: 6/25/2019

Published: 6/27/2019

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w/ Coleman Hughes

- Everyone Told Coleman Not To Testify

- Age, Experience, Credentials

- Lethal Weapons, Imaginary Friends

- “Shame Shame”

- Full Puerto Rican

- Moral Alchemy

- Coleman Reads His Mentions

- We, They, Us

- Candace Owens, Lil Pump, And The Decline of Western Civilization

Recorded: 6/21/2019

Published: 6/24/2019

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- Kmele’s New Spot in Brooklyn

- Moynihan Gets Arrested

- Fisher is a jealous 'lefty hack'

- Dave Rubin is totally NOT in his Feelings

- Assange, Journalistic Freedom

- Trump vs His Advisors

- European Elections

- MLK: Hero, Philanderer (and possibly worse), But Definitely a Hero

- Bill de Blasio Needs to Raise Some Money, Fast

Recorded: 5/28/2019

Published: 5/30/2019

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- 'Alex Jones is not a civil rights leader!'

- Howard Kurtz was once serious

- Trump's attempted outing

- Phony classical liberals

- Free speech at the margins

- Every election is stolen

- Finding Loose Change

- Conspiracy theorists, right and left

- An Infinitely stupid Congress

- Donald Trump as Mr. Bean

Recorded: 5/8/2019

Published: 5/12/2019

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w/ Eli Lake (Columnist @ Bloomberg Voice)

- We Like Bari Weiss

- Moynihan is a Drunk, Also a Great Neighbor

- Muller Report

- Grifting, the Grifters, of Grif

- Eli Lake's Hood Pass

- Tom Arnold Was Great in True Lies

- All The Missing Tapes

- Seth Abramson's Beautiful Mind

- Election Interference / Hacking / Exaggerations

- Impeachments + Inquiries

- Assange: Journalist or Naw?

- Naughty Journalist in the Movies

- Dogs = White Supremacy

- That's Why Darkies Were Born

Recorded: 4/24/2019

Published: 4/25/2019

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