I'm neither a Trump supporter nor hater. I am a veteran but couldn't give less of a shit if anyone speaks badly about the military. That said, he's the commander-in-chief of the military, and citing the tragedy of a training exercise gone fatally awry to make a political point before a dead American soldier has even had time to be buried violates the principles taught in military leadership courses. I'm not offended by his words, but it's not hard to see why retroactively asserting that a soldier's death was incontrovertably the product of her own incompetence is detrimental to troop morale. Whether the military has incorporated DEI practices to a point where it's harmful to the state of military readiness and battlefield lethality is a separate question altogether.
That’s why it’s totally understandable why one of the soldier’s family asked them not to be named publicly. They’re going to be dragged thru the political mud.
Regarding the DEI programs, Blocked and Reported's ex-researcher, who's an ex-mormon gay furry, posted an article last January about how the FAA in 2014 explicitly tried to hire majority black people and disqualified qualified candidates for ATC roles.
Important Quotes:
"the class-action lawsuit currently known as Brigida v. Buttigieg, brought by a class who spent years and thousands of dollars in coursework to become air traffic controllers, only to be dismissed by a pass-fail biographical questionnaire with a >90% fail rate, implemented without warning after many of them had already taken, and passed, a skill assessment. The questionnaire awarded points for factors like "lowest grade in high school is science," something explicitly admitted by the FAA in a motion to deny class certification."
"Central to this: the cognitive test posed a barrier for black candidates, so they recommended using a biographical test first to "maximiz[e] diversity," eliminating the vast majority of candidates prior to any cognitive test."
There is also some scuttlebutt the pilot of the chopper was a woman and that is why her name hasn’t been released unlike the other two. And there certainly has been a direct “DEI” push to get more women flying jets and helicopters in the military, it has been an explicit goal for over a decade. And as you said in ATC (great work by Trace) and in airliner pilot chairs.
It is not actually nearly as irrelevant as they made light of on the podcast.
And while Trump’s comments were pretty crass, that is sort of how he is and not much different than when more traditional pols (Democrats especially) jump to discuss gun control during tragedies when it isn’t even clear if their proposed policy would impact the particular situation.
The DEI stuff is a legit menace and corrosive to the functioning of society badly. Calling it out as much as possible is good.
Also, some great video floating around of an LAWP board meeting where a citizen points out the super well compensated president seems to have been largely picked due to DEI credentials and then proceeded to make DEI shit the focus of her board updates instead of you know, fixing reservoirs.
Yes to a hammer everything looks like a nail. But sometimes the commentary from a hammer isn’t bad when someone just spilled nails all over the fucking driveway.
Not that I am aware of, but that sort of isn’t the point. What would that even look like exactly?
You would need a massive investigation into the entire training process and decision making all down the line, an investigation I get the impression demands like yours are explicitly meant to short circuit.
Imagine that your child needs a major surgery and it is botched. And the surgeon is 6’5”.
Later you find out the hospital you were at had an explicit policy for years of strongly preferencing and protecting doctors over 6’3” because of some stupid tribal or superstitious or political reason or whatever non-merit based reason.
At that point would you or would you not be suspicious and ask a lawyer to look into the hiring practices around the surgeon?
These types of initiatives have been explicitly criticized for years on the grounds that standards are lowered and excuses are made and the average level of excellence falls all in the service of “representation/fairness/equity/whatever”.
Most those concerns get shot down with preemptive accusations of racism/sexism, or sort of blind/craven/deceptive wishful thinking assertions that lowering of standards or changing processes to get better demographic representation won’t impact outcomes/failures.
When there are major failures it is literally the exact time you want to ask/analyze about whether those trade-offs are actually worth it.
This is a common but heavily suppressed item of discussion in the aviation community.
That you need an investigation to determine if DEI hiring practices contributed to this is exactly the point. Trump and others shouldn’t be blaming DEI before such an investigation takes place. Same goes for the ATC staff.
Edit: I agree that such an investigation needs to look at the qualifications of all involved and whether or not DEI policies led to people being put in positions of responsibility they weren’t qualified for. We shouldn’t shy away from that, but we, and the President especially, shouldn’t be speculating before an investigation takes place.
Politicians speculating about their pet causes before they have all the facts is literally par for the course. It certainly happens all the time with gun violence, weather events, mental health, and all sorts of topics.
I agree it is bad, but it is hardly some giant breaking of political norms like many other things Trump does which are hugely norm breaking.
Well said. Even if this case doesn't directly incriminate the widespread use of irrelevant identity-based criteria when discriminating between candidates for these positions, it does illustrate the stakes and thereby the madness of seeking any but the most competent people to fill them.
Reporting from CNN indicates the Black hawk pilot requested and was granted the right to use manual "visual seperation" to avoid the plane. This "seperation" failing might indicate pilot error or incompetence, but I guess it's too early to say:
"Before the pilot responded, the controller instructed the helicopter to “pass behind the CRJ,” according to a feed of the air traffic communication.
“Pat-25 has aircraft in sight,” the helicopter pilot responded with his call signal. He requested “visual separation,” meaning he would visually maintain a safe distance from the jet. The tower confirmed and granted the pilot permission to visually navigate and avoid Flight 5342."
Just as a side note while watching streaming today with my child I saw an ad for the army that specifically was like "look at this black female helicopter pilot, she is the first black female helicopter pilot in her unit's history, aren't we great?
I almost wonder if it was related to Trump's comments it was so on the nose.
I'll believe you aren't stacking the deck for these candidates when you stop bragging about them.
I think there is a lot of evidence ATC staff around the country are less qualified than they would be without DEI and political meddling. Whether that impacted this particular situation is something only a deep examination could turn up.
Almost always in accidents like this there is like 10 pieces of swiss cheese because aviation has so many safeguards, so you get an accident when all the holes line up. It can be very worth examining whether one of those holes are these non merit based hiring practices.
I volunteered on the Polish-Ukrainian border right after the war started. It was emotionally grueling work. On my flight back to New York from Krakow, mentally fried and drained, I got a seat upgrade so I could stretch out. I wanted to just sleep and listen to music. Then this fucking guy and his elderly mother sat next to me and put their bare, gross feet up on the bulkhead in front of me the entire flight. This part of the pod utterly cracked me up.
This also speaks to the analogy they were trying to make. It is not the case that pharmaceutical companies would never do anything that harms us. There is a business risk there, yes, but they could have gotten away with Vioxx for a lot longer than they did, and there are plenty of other examples of the medical business resulting in harm.
Yes, I definitely remember Biden tariffing all of our allies while threatening Panama and Greenland his first month in office. It's definitely the Democrats fault though.
It is 100% the Democrats fault we have Trump. Your candidates and policies are so bad you can't even beat this human shitbag? Think about that, take some responsibility.
Weren't his main tariffs against China? I remember a lumber tariff but that's pretty targeted. I don't remember any sweeping targets against Canada and Mexico.
Off topic a bit, so I apologize in advance. In Members Only #246, Kmele mentioned that he would post the letter he wrote to his daughter's teacher(s) regarding MLK Day and Black History Month on Substack. Does anyone know where I can find it?
Speaking of the conversation about Poland having no migrants, the following video from a savvas curriculum my school district is piloting is the opening video for our ELA unit 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7XhrXUoD6U (it comes from Amnesty Poland) Basically the idea is that looking into migrants eyes will elicit empathy or whatever. Which is fine as far as it goes, but no amount of empathy for individual migrants can erase the fact that letting in large amounts of ME immigrants is inviting a certain amount of ..... complications..... Ill show the video in my class, but it is stupid, milquetoast, besides-the-point, propaganda.
Kmele complaining about clueless media coverage of Deepseek seems like Gell-Mann Amnesia.
"""
Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story-and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read with renewed interest as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about far-off Palestine than it was about the story you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
Yeah they all have a very noticeable (though I guess understandable) blind spot about the general level of competence, honesty, and good faith in the media. I really don't think most reporters are just trying to get to the facts and share info. Even 20-25 years ago and certainly not now.
They might tell themselves that, just like Bernie Madoff probably told himself all sorts of shit. But there are few professions with a bigger delta between the virtuousness of what they are actually doing (often stenographers to power and their own biases), and what they tell themselves they are doing (warriors fighting to uncover the truth).
Everytime they repeat their tired talking point about "well the New York Times doesn't ever really *lie* exactly", the collective trust of the media falls even further because it is so transparently horseshit to anyone with a brain and a little knowledge about some topic the NYT touches on occasionally.
You can tell they are liars because they call it "writing a story", like a fucking fisherman. When someone says "tell me a story fisherman", they aren't using the word story because they think it is going to be accurate rendition of events.
Trump is a big balled bull in the China shop of the world😉, and his policies do have negative consequences for alliances. If our allies (especially Canada, UK, France, Germany) have terrible policies and economic trajectories at the moment, maybe the new focus is breaking alliances to favor other maga friendly pockets within the govt of our allies. I'm not suggesting it is possible, or that the Trump team does anything but wave their big sticks around without thought. Still...c'mon: we just endured 4 years of a zombie govt w little to no accountability propped up by parroting journos. There are consequences to that b.s. too: Trump.
I'm neither a Trump supporter nor hater. I am a veteran but couldn't give less of a shit if anyone speaks badly about the military. That said, he's the commander-in-chief of the military, and citing the tragedy of a training exercise gone fatally awry to make a political point before a dead American soldier has even had time to be buried violates the principles taught in military leadership courses. I'm not offended by his words, but it's not hard to see why retroactively asserting that a soldier's death was incontrovertably the product of her own incompetence is detrimental to troop morale. Whether the military has incorporated DEI practices to a point where it's harmful to the state of military readiness and battlefield lethality is a separate question altogether.
That’s why it’s totally understandable why one of the soldier’s family asked them not to be named publicly. They’re going to be dragged thru the political mud.
World's worst social media account --
Moynihan: travels to a former Eastern Bloc country to attend a unique historic ceremony at an infamous location fraught with meaning
We get: an instagram stories photo of some guy's bare feet on an airplane
Regarding the DEI programs, Blocked and Reported's ex-researcher, who's an ex-mormon gay furry, posted an article last January about how the FAA in 2014 explicitly tried to hire majority black people and disqualified qualified candidates for ATC roles.
Important Quotes:
"the class-action lawsuit currently known as Brigida v. Buttigieg, brought by a class who spent years and thousands of dollars in coursework to become air traffic controllers, only to be dismissed by a pass-fail biographical questionnaire with a >90% fail rate, implemented without warning after many of them had already taken, and passed, a skill assessment. The questionnaire awarded points for factors like "lowest grade in high school is science," something explicitly admitted by the FAA in a motion to deny class certification."
"Central to this: the cognitive test posed a barrier for black candidates, so they recommended using a biographical test first to "maximiz[e] diversity," eliminating the vast majority of candidates prior to any cognitive test."
https://www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/the-faas-hiring-scandal-a-quick-overview
There is also some scuttlebutt the pilot of the chopper was a woman and that is why her name hasn’t been released unlike the other two. And there certainly has been a direct “DEI” push to get more women flying jets and helicopters in the military, it has been an explicit goal for over a decade. And as you said in ATC (great work by Trace) and in airliner pilot chairs.
It is not actually nearly as irrelevant as they made light of on the podcast.
And while Trump’s comments were pretty crass, that is sort of how he is and not much different than when more traditional pols (Democrats especially) jump to discuss gun control during tragedies when it isn’t even clear if their proposed policy would impact the particular situation.
The DEI stuff is a legit menace and corrosive to the functioning of society badly. Calling it out as much as possible is good.
Also, some great video floating around of an LAWP board meeting where a citizen points out the super well compensated president seems to have been largely picked due to DEI credentials and then proceeded to make DEI shit the focus of her board updates instead of you know, fixing reservoirs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE23fp91PEE&t=233s
Yes to a hammer everything looks like a nail. But sometimes the commentary from a hammer isn’t bad when someone just spilled nails all over the fucking driveway.
Is there any evidence the pilot of the helicopter was unqualified but still allowed to fly because she was a woman?
Not that I am aware of, but that sort of isn’t the point. What would that even look like exactly?
You would need a massive investigation into the entire training process and decision making all down the line, an investigation I get the impression demands like yours are explicitly meant to short circuit.
Imagine that your child needs a major surgery and it is botched. And the surgeon is 6’5”.
Later you find out the hospital you were at had an explicit policy for years of strongly preferencing and protecting doctors over 6’3” because of some stupid tribal or superstitious or political reason or whatever non-merit based reason.
At that point would you or would you not be suspicious and ask a lawyer to look into the hiring practices around the surgeon?
These types of initiatives have been explicitly criticized for years on the grounds that standards are lowered and excuses are made and the average level of excellence falls all in the service of “representation/fairness/equity/whatever”.
Most those concerns get shot down with preemptive accusations of racism/sexism, or sort of blind/craven/deceptive wishful thinking assertions that lowering of standards or changing processes to get better demographic representation won’t impact outcomes/failures.
When there are major failures it is literally the exact time you want to ask/analyze about whether those trade-offs are actually worth it.
This is a common but heavily suppressed item of discussion in the aviation community.
That you need an investigation to determine if DEI hiring practices contributed to this is exactly the point. Trump and others shouldn’t be blaming DEI before such an investigation takes place. Same goes for the ATC staff.
Edit: I agree that such an investigation needs to look at the qualifications of all involved and whether or not DEI policies led to people being put in positions of responsibility they weren’t qualified for. We shouldn’t shy away from that, but we, and the President especially, shouldn’t be speculating before an investigation takes place.
Politicians speculating about their pet causes before they have all the facts is literally par for the course. It certainly happens all the time with gun violence, weather events, mental health, and all sorts of topics.
I agree it is bad, but it is hardly some giant breaking of political norms like many other things Trump does which are hugely norm breaking.
I don't think it needs to be "hugely norm breaking" for it to be ok for people to criticize it
Well said. Even if this case doesn't directly incriminate the widespread use of irrelevant identity-based criteria when discriminating between candidates for these positions, it does illustrate the stakes and thereby the madness of seeking any but the most competent people to fill them.
Reporting from CNN indicates the Black hawk pilot requested and was granted the right to use manual "visual seperation" to avoid the plane. This "seperation" failing might indicate pilot error or incompetence, but I guess it's too early to say:
"Before the pilot responded, the controller instructed the helicopter to “pass behind the CRJ,” according to a feed of the air traffic communication.
“Pat-25 has aircraft in sight,” the helicopter pilot responded with his call signal. He requested “visual separation,” meaning he would visually maintain a safe distance from the jet. The tower confirmed and granted the pilot permission to visually navigate and avoid Flight 5342."
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/us/helicopter-plane-crash-washington-dc-narrative/index.html
Just as a side note while watching streaming today with my child I saw an ad for the army that specifically was like "look at this black female helicopter pilot, she is the first black female helicopter pilot in her unit's history, aren't we great?
I almost wonder if it was related to Trump's comments it was so on the nose.
I'll believe you aren't stacking the deck for these candidates when you stop bragging about them.
Blocked and reported did a primo episode with trace about this: https://www.blockedandreported.org/p/premium-the-faas-bizarre-diversity
Is there any evidence that the ATC personnel on duty that night weren’t fully qualified?
I think there is a lot of evidence ATC staff around the country are less qualified than they would be without DEI and political meddling. Whether that impacted this particular situation is something only a deep examination could turn up.
Almost always in accidents like this there is like 10 pieces of swiss cheese because aviation has so many safeguards, so you get an accident when all the holes line up. It can be very worth examining whether one of those holes are these non merit based hiring practices.
See my response to your other comment above.
The only information I know for certain is that the tower was understaffed.
https://substack.com/@kenklippenstein/note/c-89761814?r=dw8wf&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
I volunteered on the Polish-Ukrainian border right after the war started. It was emotionally grueling work. On my flight back to New York from Krakow, mentally fried and drained, I got a seat upgrade so I could stretch out. I wanted to just sleep and listen to music. Then this fucking guy and his elderly mother sat next to me and put their bare, gross feet up on the bulkhead in front of me the entire flight. This part of the pod utterly cracked me up.
Matt you were thinking of Malicious compliance, but sadly we can’t turn this into another no step on snek.
Should we call Matt misremembering things a snekism?
"Has the press learned its lesson?" No
Moynihan talking about Karoline Leavitt without a single remark on her appearace? Is he unwell?
Maybe the age gap in her marriage has left him too disgusted to contemplate her attractiveness.
Idk he seems ok complimenting Olivia Nuzzi 💀
Olivia falls within the traditional “half his age plus seven” constraint that Moynihan seems to broadly follow.
They make this analogy that it would be silly for drug dealers to put fentanyl in cocaine because it would kill their customers. Speaking as someone who reviews drug tests from people who use drugs on a daily basis, there is definitely fentanyl in cocaine. It is well documented (e.g https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37826988/, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30635841/, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34726975/).
This also speaks to the analogy they were trying to make. It is not the case that pharmaceutical companies would never do anything that harms us. There is a business risk there, yes, but they could have gotten away with Vioxx for a lot longer than they did, and there are plenty of other examples of the medical business resulting in harm.
I love how they automatically start bothsidsing when they're discussing something bad Trump did.
Well, some things do two side. TBF
Yes, I definitely remember Biden tariffing all of our allies while threatening Panama and Greenland his first month in office. It's definitely the Democrats fault though.
It is 100% the Democrats fault we have Trump. Your candidates and policies are so bad you can't even beat this human shitbag? Think about that, take some responsibility.
Nothing the Democrats have done in living memory has been this stupid.
He did tariff our allies.
Weren't his main tariffs against China? I remember a lumber tariff but that's pretty targeted. I don't remember any sweeping targets against Canada and Mexico.
Give me the bit coins
are they in dis drawer? are they in dis suit-KEHZ?
Off topic a bit, so I apologize in advance. In Members Only #246, Kmele mentioned that he would post the letter he wrote to his daughter's teacher(s) regarding MLK Day and Black History Month on Substack. Does anyone know where I can find it?
According to the federal register Trump has signed 45 executive orders so far.
According to Wikipedia Biden signed 42 in his first 100 days which was the most since Truman.
Bringing up quantity was some serious whataboutism by Matt.
I didn’t bring it up.
Trump has signed more in his first 10 days than Biden did in his first 100 days
Thanks, I did not know that at the time of taping the episode.
Not fact checking since no claim was made. Just facting (yeah I know that’s not a word).
Yeah, the stats I'm looking at show that Trump has far outpaced Biden at this point
Speaking of the conversation about Poland having no migrants, the following video from a savvas curriculum my school district is piloting is the opening video for our ELA unit 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7XhrXUoD6U (it comes from Amnesty Poland) Basically the idea is that looking into migrants eyes will elicit empathy or whatever. Which is fine as far as it goes, but no amount of empathy for individual migrants can erase the fact that letting in large amounts of ME immigrants is inviting a certain amount of ..... complications..... Ill show the video in my class, but it is stupid, milquetoast, besides-the-point, propaganda.
Kmele complaining about clueless media coverage of Deepseek seems like Gell-Mann Amnesia.
"""
Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story-and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read with renewed interest as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about far-off Palestine than it was about the story you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
"""
https://ritholtz.com/2002/04/michael-crichtons-why-speculate/
Yeah they all have a very noticeable (though I guess understandable) blind spot about the general level of competence, honesty, and good faith in the media. I really don't think most reporters are just trying to get to the facts and share info. Even 20-25 years ago and certainly not now.
They might tell themselves that, just like Bernie Madoff probably told himself all sorts of shit. But there are few professions with a bigger delta between the virtuousness of what they are actually doing (often stenographers to power and their own biases), and what they tell themselves they are doing (warriors fighting to uncover the truth).
Everytime they repeat their tired talking point about "well the New York Times doesn't ever really *lie* exactly", the collective trust of the media falls even further because it is so transparently horseshit to anyone with a brain and a little knowledge about some topic the NYT touches on occasionally.
You can tell they are liars because they call it "writing a story", like a fucking fisherman. When someone says "tell me a story fisherman", they aren't using the word story because they think it is going to be accurate rendition of events.
Trump is a big balled bull in the China shop of the world😉, and his policies do have negative consequences for alliances. If our allies (especially Canada, UK, France, Germany) have terrible policies and economic trajectories at the moment, maybe the new focus is breaking alliances to favor other maga friendly pockets within the govt of our allies. I'm not suggesting it is possible, or that the Trump team does anything but wave their big sticks around without thought. Still...c'mon: we just endured 4 years of a zombie govt w little to no accountability propped up by parroting journos. There are consequences to that b.s. too: Trump.
Does Matt think a blunderbuss is a kind of bus that people use to blunder into things?
Isn’t it actually an antique firearm?