The Fifth Column (A Podcast)
The Fifth Column
Members Only #162 - Jon Ronson on Neo-Nazi Debutantes, the Oklahoma City Bombing, and "Platforming" Alex Jones
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Members Only #162 - Jon Ronson on Neo-Nazi Debutantes, the Oklahoma City Bombing, and "Platforming" Alex Jones

He first came on to talk about a suicide in the porn industry. Then he came back to help us explore the origins of our roiling culture wars. And now Jon Ronson returns for his third one-on-one conversation with Michael Moynihan, this time to discuss The Debutante, his brilliant new podcast about high society neo-Nazis, bad swastika tattoos, Throbbing Gristle, the Oklahoma City bombing, a dodgy German named “Andy,” and what a thirty-year-old story can teach us about “threats to democracy.”

Note from Moynihan: I twice say that Waco: Rules of Engagement won the 1998 Academy Award for best documentary. This is incorrect. It was nominated but didn’t win.

Also: If you need an added incentive to download The Debutante, this clip from the first episode—which makes me laugh very, very hard every time I listen to it—should do the trick:

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The Fifth Column (A Podcast)
The Fifth Column
Your weekly rhetorical assault on the on the news cycle, the people who make it, and occasionally ourselves. Kmele Foster (Freethink), Michael Moynihan (Vice), and Matt Welch (Reason) talk and laugh and drink their way to at least quasi-sanity in a world gone mad, often with the aid of clean and articulate guests. Weekly Members Only subscription edition often comes with listener mail and professional-quality (if inappropriate) singing. Analysis. Commentary. Sedition.